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James M.'s avatar

I respect you as a writer and I’m not trying to start an unproductive exchange. From my perspective his message doesn’t really apply here. 20 million illegal immigrants were intentionally invited into our country and incentivized to stay. The democratic will of the people was that this horrible neglect of federal law be rectified. It was never going to be easy, but I see little evidence that the right’s appetite is growing to use this state power against other groups. Immigration law should be enforced. ICE has that right and duty, and every politician and commenter who’s advocating illegal resistance or violence against them is contributing to a far more active and dangerous level of extremism than anything which currently exists on the right. That’s to say nothing of the reckless ‘sanctuary city’ policies, which intentionally hide and release onto the streets accused robbers and rapists. Even Pastor Neimoller would probably grant the right of the government to punish criminals and enforce its borders (which necessarily means coercive deportations). I don’t recall any of this rhetoric when the last 4 presidents essentially did the same thing that Trump is doing.

There are other lessons in the experience of Weimar and then Nazi Germany: extremism and street violence by the left only encourages extremism on the right. And dehumanization is always a dangerous turn to take. That includes dehumanizing Trump voters and ICE agents. I see little dehumanization of illegal immigrants on the right. We’re not angry at them… there’s no hostility. We’re angry at the politicians who cynically exploited them for their financial and political purposes. We simply want them out of our country, like federal law dictates. Even most LEGAL immigrants want this. It’s possible that it’s the left which has become hateful and extreme around this issue… and not the right.

https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/intransigence

David Burse's avatar

Dave - If I overstay my tourist VISA or otherwise enter illegally in [ANY COUNTRY], what do you think happens? They ask me politely to pack my bags? And if I don't? They say, OK, I guess you can stay? Is that how it works in Thailand? (IDK). Australia told us up front that if we overstay our allotted 90 days, we will be escorted to a nice "hotel-like" holding room at the airport, put on the next flight back to the US, and never allowed in the country again. What if we resist and make a scene? Will there police look like some "Hollywood Gestapo" in physically grabbing us?

Instead of hyperbole - offer a solution. And, good luck with that.

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