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Crimson's avatar

Men have followed female leaders since the dawn of time.

Queen Elizabeth, Catherine the Great, Joan of Arc, Margaret Thatcher, - just Google the word Queen and see what comes up.

That ad was such an embarrassment because its target audience doesn’t exist, and revealed the humiliating truth that Democrats think men are like this.

They believe - actually believe - that there are men living in the United States who would vote Democrat, but tremble at the thought that someone might find out they voted for a woman.

Further, they believe this contingent is large enough to target with a multi million dollar ad campaign.

Czarny Kot's avatar

I'm a small-L libertarian and I contributed to tulsi gabbards campaign in 2019 because I despise war. Democrats (she used to be one, remember?) have very rarely appealed to people like me but this stuff really matters and I guarantee there are many men who would vote for a woman who actually had principles and was well spoken. Her switch to the GOP isn't that surprising because she actually appealed to men and that's anathema to democrats.

DMC's avatar

they were targeting themselves with that campaign.

Herbert Nowell's avatar

I remember in 2016 during the Democrat primaries a friend of my who was a Bernie supporter getting mad at people telling him he was a misogynist and was only voting for Bernie because he couldn't stand women and if Hillary was a man he'd be voting for her.

It was all my old GOP primary voting soul could do to not say, "Welcome to the party pal."

But it seems to be the default setting for a lot of people in the Democrat party.

Crimson's avatar

How insane is that level of paranoia?

Like…I only like led zeppelin better than Taylor swift because I’m sexist. I know. It was bananas.

Brandy's avatar

It's so embarrassing I actually feel sorry for them. I mean, are these the types of men they have met in their lives? If so, I can understand the disgust. The problem is that I have been around men my entire life. I only have uncles, both kids are men, in gifted classes there were 10 males and 3 females, my brother, my dad, my husband. All of them are different. One of my uncles is the guy you talk about, so yes, we all know one. However, they don't understand actual real life men at all! Or at least they don't know any good and decent men which make up the majority. It's like they have created a caricature of what they think a man is. It's so very strange.

Punished Karla Gerstmann's avatar

The guy you made up for message #1 is a fantasy liberal writers make up for TV shows, not an actual guy. They do not exist. If you think they exist you have been fooled by liberal TV writers.

David Dennison's avatar

Nah dude, he’s literally on his way to my house right now 😆

Brent Nyitray's avatar

Who isn't going to look up to a dude who can braid the shit out of his daughter's hair? Or eats carburetors for breakfast?

The funny thing is the left is trying to ban any engine that uses one, but of course the people who made the ad probably couldn't start a lawnmower so they don't know any better.

The Upright Man.'s avatar

Or even know what a carburetor is, let alone that it is attached to an ICE engine.

Faia Kennedy's avatar

But ICE bad!!!

Czarny Kot's avatar

Or know that a carburetor hasn't been a part of an engine in like 40 years

Herbert Nowell's avatar

I'm still confused by the carburetor thing. I mean, they aren't exactly the hardest rebuild in the world. Most of the time you just get a parts kit and a little patience.

There are a lot better examples.

The Walrus's avatar

and the "full throated endorsement" line just does not help at all

Eric Blair's avatar

Or when the other guy professes his love for his horse and then glances over at it longingly.

Mark A Kruger's avatar

It’s like they reviewed the Dukakis riding in a tank ad and said, “Yes! that’s the vibe we are looking for”.

Charlotte's avatar

The own goal aspect of Man Enough reminds me of that “whiteness” chart put out by the National Museum of African American History https://archive.org/details/whiteness-chart-smithsonian-nmaahc-washington-d.-c. which was sort of an inadvertent advertisement for “whiteness.”

Faia Kennedy's avatar

I still cannot believe that was real. Felt like an April fools joke.

Sathington Willoughby's avatar

That tends to happen when the majority of your writing staff is comprised of highly indoctrinated female political commissars.

Steve's avatar

The passage of time gives clarity to elections. Dukakis’s loss in 1988, for example, is now remembered for Willie Horton and a tank. And Harris’s campaign in 2024 is likely to be distilled into “Kamala is for they/them” and “Man Enough.”

Czarny Kot's avatar

Feel like it was pretty clear as it was happening

Bob Knudsen's avatar

There's a phenomenon in media where writers, almost entirely left leaning, create a satirical caricature of what they deem an objectionable man, and this man invariably becomes incredibly popular with those it's mocking. Archie Bunker, Al Bundy, Michael P Keaton, Hank Hill, hell even outright villains like Homelander. As you can tell by this very small sample, it's been happening for decades, and while those are some more prominent examples, i could probably dig up a good 30 more.

In other words, they can identify the traits that make these men popular, and they can even portray them effectively, if not cartoonishly. But what they do not understand is why these characters resonate (yes, even complete monster Homelander) with men.

Faia Kennedy's avatar

And then they call the men stupid misogynistic monsters for relating to those characters. The amount of ridicule I see any man get when he says he likes a character with the traits you mentioned is insane, especially on places like Reddit. It seems like lots of liberals live in a completely different reality than the rest of us.

jabster's avatar

Then there was the Julia Roberts ad, which was straight-up IMAX-caliber projection and would ring 10x more true if the sexes were reversed. Another own goal in Dem advertising.

And men knew that. So did women, if they were honest with themselves.

I Justin Wilson GARONTEE that it turned more men away from the Dems than women towards the Dems.

MJ's avatar

Delighted with the Justin Wilson quote!

Elmer's avatar

I want to avoid politics but that ad was high comedy and part of the swirl of entertainment around the election.

Basically's avatar

Saying a post #metoo world in 2026 is so bizarre. Nobody thinks about that anymore other than leftist political commentators, and most of the cultural changes it made have already been reversed.

Herbert Nowell's avatar

"Like, imagine a toothpaste spot that featured a bunch of guys in jackboots, round helmets, and black longcoats with armbands brushing their teeth, and concluding, “Crest: The #1 Choice For Nazis.”"

I will not lie, but with the picture you got with it I laughed and there was a certain appeal in to to my GenX heart. Now, it was an ironic appeal, the same game played by films as divergent as Iron Sky and Ilsa: She Wolf of the SS.

I wonder if instead of "Kimmel Humor" the ad had pulled off that kind of Daria irony (which, if it was trying to it failed at) if it might have worked instead.