I’m a woman writing about how feminism has ruined social relations between men and women and between women. I try my best to encourage women in my writing to think critically about their beliefs. You are correct, it’s my cohort of millennial women plus gen z pushing misandry while calling themselves victims. It’s gross, and I think only women can truly effectively push back. Women are socially conformist creatures. We’re not going to wholesale abandon wokeism because our social company depends on our recitation of the woke catechism. And the way this ideology is embedded in our social relationships will make it near impossible to dislodge from our psyches, which means Democrats will continue to lose elections. Women won’t let it go, because it’s tied up in our social status system inextricably.
That's an interesting take that I hadn't thought of. I think it's related to the problem of feminism lacking a clear, consistent purpose. It's done a lot of shape shifting over the years. Hardly anyone is against 1st wave feminism. 2nd wave too is pretty non-controversial these days. But by the 3rd wave, shit was starting to get weird. Of course, by then, the identity had hardened. To NOT be a feminist was a betrayal, so left-leaning women have clung to the label, and its attendant priorities, despite it not really reflecting much of value anymore.
I told a friend a few years ago I could no longer call myself a Feminist, which shocked her, as I had been a woke feminist since the 90s. In the last 6 years, I listened to men I knew talk about women telling them to shut up and sit down, because their voice and ideas did not matter. I listened to my kids say their worst teachers were super liberal ideologues. The happiest people I met were Republicans. I have been told I was unimportant, because I was obv. a wealthy Karen (I grew up very poor w a father in prison). I met Black, Latino, and immigrant people who hated the Democratic party, because they were more religious, socially conservative, and entrepreneurially minded than most lib white Americans I know. I see the stats about young American men failing. I watched the results of Democratic policy induce the problems we face today with no accountability. They will not listen: that is the number one problem! The Dems and Fems know better than everyone else. This article is great, but do you really think the Democratic party can actually reform? I don't.
Sheesh, I don't know. I hold out hope, but I'm about as optimistic as you are. What seriously pisses me off about all this was that none of it - NONE - led to any significant policy victories. This entire detour into rancid identity obsession was a sacrifice in the name of...nothing.
Totally agree with your take on modern feminism driving men away from the left by pathologizing them. In my mind it’s very closely related to the inability of progressives to ever take a W insofar as feminist ideology refuses to admit how much better things have gotten for women, and as such has to keep coming up with more and more esoteric arguments about the oppression of women (e.g. toxic masculinity) now that most of the real battles around equal access to education, financial services, pay equity, etc. have largely been won. Why would white men especially sign up for a party that has done its best to reify an explicit identity based hierarchy of virtue that places them at the bottom? I remain a Dem because I’m basically Rawlsian at heart and I prefer their economic policy positions, but I’m not sure 20 year old me would have stuck it out.
Dems could really benefit from carefully examining this refusal to take Ws. It's so unbelievably counterproductive. I mean, I sort of get it. This generation of lefties grew up idolizing civil rights crusaders from eras past. Those fights are mostly won, which is a bummer for them because it means they can't be the heroes they worship, so they're just making things up to rail against. I'm a Rawlsian too, which is incredibly frustrating, because economic justice actually IS a fight worth having. For some reason, this is less fun for today's mostly-online libs though, so they're opting to just alienate everyone instead.
Its an issue of all ideologies. If you admit victory and your job is being a feminist, then congrats you’re out of a job. Thus your job depends on constantly finding new fights.
Its why the anti-abortion wing of the republicans literally folded like an omlette the second roe got slam dunked into the trash. That bill getting repealed was like the meteor killing all the dinosaurs for that whole racket.
Why continue to exist if your whole purpose just got obliterated?
I am a lifetime liberal woman who totally agrees with your assessment. I used to be a feminist. I am revolted by the woke identity politics. Livingston a lefty in Houston, I could live a decade thinking that conservative talking about the phenomenon were being hyperbolic, not looking into the situation. In the last year it’s dawned on me with horror detached from a shared reality the cult‘s ideas are. Now I think of myself as a women‘ rights advocate.
The left is losing women too. The cognitive dissonance is deafening in people talking about women’s rights while redefining the biology out of the term woman. I still hold center left ideals, but will be looking for other options until they repudiate the woke cult agenda.
Once lefties are ready to talk about it - which they still mostly aren't - they are going to need to reckon with the extent to which bowing to the language constraints of the "inclusivity" police was wildly alienating to all but the most extreme fringes.
Just now seeing this column. I expressly did not vote Democrat in the election because of the very palatable disdain for men, esp white and hetero (in other words, ME).
Look, I worked too hard these last 42 years, raised too good a family, was too much an overall contributor to the good of society than a detractor from it, to put up with being told I'm toxic and a problem for more than one nanosecond. So, no, those guys and gals did not get my vote.
But neither did Trump. He's not who I want for president, either, for many various OTHER reasons.
Both parties have a lot of work to do to stop being stupid and dysfunctional. I'm not holding my breath for anything to change, however, because both parties are corrupt institutions with a death grip on their power. Need proof? How about the fact that the candidates each party puts forth for us to choose from are worse and worse with every election. It's pathetic, and I refuse to support it. It must change.
Same, man. First election of my adult life in which I didn't vote. What really activated me against this batshit strain of contemporary feminism was having a son. Fair enough, come at me if it makes you feel good. I'll take it. But I'm not going to sit still for a bunch of assholes trying to make my four-year-old kid's life harder - harder to get into college, to get a job, to get promoted - all because of shit that people did before his grandfather was born. Nope. There's where I get off the train.
Let me put up an idea for you as an economic writer: If all government is discredited, then the only thing left standing is corporations. Wonderful representation and equality under the law, right?
Now what donors would pay to have 1) the most terrible candidates 2) the most losing campaigns? A: All of them, in that case.
David, you fucking called everything like an oracle. I’ve been writing about similar subjects, but captured everything here perfectly. Enjoy your victory lap
"I don’t think there’s anything ageist in pointing out that political leaders..."
I'm a politically homeless former Dem, and I have to say that this qualifying sentiment here is one of the main things that Dems STILL don't seem to really get about why they lost. People in general are sick of having to defend, qualify, and otherwise censor themselves lest they incur the wrath of the morality police. The political correctness in the party is so deeply ingrained that qualification, hedging, etc. like the above quote come as naturally and unconsciously as breathing.
They don't realize that most people don't want to start conversations with "As a white straight male..." or "In my experience..." They rightly see it as a signal that the speaker adhering to the new speech orthodoxy being imposed on us by a small subset of the population. It was endured or ignored for a long time, but in the age of the internet and social media, and in the wake of 2020, it has become pernicious and now has the teeth to punish the average Joe, and can no longer be endured.
Get back to trying to get good jobs for blue collar and middle class people. Drop the morality play. Then you'll get the lost demographics back.
Oh, I 100% agree with you. Partly, it's a tick. Learned behavior. Woke sympathizers don't get how much of a brain worm it all is, having to constantly check yourself. Not to keep from saying something offensive, but to keep from saying something that a bad actor might *twist* into something offensive. It's exhausting. Partly though, I hedge like that because I know there's a chunk of my readership that will get stuck on it if I don't. Easier to add a clause acknowledging the BS than to have to go 10 rounds on a point that isn't even germane to the thesis.
Sorry to hear about your flood experiences. We're down here in Nonthaburi and mainly high and dry. The YouTube videos from the north have been devastating to watch so can't imagine how horrible it must be to be in it.
I have a number of quibbles about "feminism" as it is manifest in the Democratic Party.
I remember well how Hillary poleaxed any and all women who came forward to accuse ol' "Cigar-in-Pussy" Bill and managed to convince the Dem base that it was all "a vast rightwing conspiracy". There is nothing "feminist" about that.
And the Hillary stans at the time of "I'm With Her" were equally non-feminist "feminists". No branch or wing of feminism since the 70s has advocated defending men who assault women or use power imbalances to manipulate "consent" in order to gain power for yourself.
"Feminism" as it evolved once it was turned into nothing more than the major front in the Democrat culture war strategy is little more than partisan political rhetoric.
As to your point re: manhating evolving over time, I have to say there have always been feminists whose primary emotion has been hatred/anger toward men. I was on campus in the 80s when the "all hetero sex is rape" school was aligning itself with Christian fundamentalists to demonize porn and heavy metal. Anything to get those bastards was part of this strange alliance.
I remember forcing myself to read Mary Daly's "Gyn/Ecology: The Metaethics of Radical Feminism" around then and slowly becoming nauseous. Fortunately for me, my mother gifted me with an unconditional self-esteem that protected me from the kind of self-loathing that could easily infect a more sensitive man reading that book.
Overall your piece here is interesting and on-point about the failings of the Dems in the US. The same goes for the Liberals and NDP in my native Canada, of course.
Glad you guys stayed dry down south! We're getting put back together now, but it's rough, and a lot of our neighbors haven't been able to move back into their homes.
I was too young to be tuned in to 80s era feminism, but I imagine the movement has always had elements that were primarily animated by hatred of men. I also imagine that many of those women come by their hatred honestly - a lot of men are indeed shit! What's odd and unfortunate to me is that the primary target of feminist ire these days seems to be very young men. In other words, those least responsible for the conditions and behaviors they don't like, and the ones least well off, are the ones getting the most scorn heaped on them.
good article - as a female Trump voter the sheer lack of self-reflection from the left on how they treat men is CRAZY, so i admire you being one of the few willing to speak about it.
another thing that someone on Twitter pointed out is that thanks to dem's misandry addiction men have become some kind of mystical, incomprehensible group requiring analysis and complex translation to understand. as a kid, i'd always hear "men are simple creatures" - not anymore, i guess? "just don't treat me like shit" is extremely difficult to understand... (except to OP, of course)
My stock response. If you have seen it before I’m sorry, if not enjoy.
After the election the Democratic Party (my party) must rethink many of its policies as it ponders its future.
To be entrusted with power again Democrats must start listening to the concerns of the working class for a change. As a lifelong moderate Democrat I share their disdain for many of the insane positions advocated by my party. We are no longer the patriotic, sensible party of FDR and JFK.
Democrat politicians defy biology by believing that men can actually become women and belong in women’s sports, rest rooms, locker rooms and prisons and that children should be mutilated in pursuit of the impossible.
They believe borders should be open to millions of illegals which undermines workers’ wages and the affordability of housing when we can’t house our own citizens.
They discriminate against whites, Asians and men in a futile effort to counter past discrimination against others and undermine our economy by abandoning merit selection of students and employees.
Democratic mayors allow homelessness to destroy our beautiful cities because they won't say no to destructive behavior. No, you can’t camp in our city. No, you can’t shit in our streets. No, you can’t shoot up and leave your used needles everywhere. Many of our prosecutors will not take action against shoplifting unless a $1000 of goods are stolen leading to gangs destroying retail stores. They release criminals without bail to commit more crimes.
The average voter knows this is happening and outright reject our party. Enough.
Feels like party functionaries closed themselves off to anyone who wasn’t a mostly online pseudo-activist. And since online spaces were so rigorously policed in terms of permissible speech, they weren’t getting the full flavor of public opinion. The question now is whether they’re going to decide they care about winning enough to change course, or whether they’ll stick to their guns to avoid losing face and personal prestige.
Look the calculus for men is pretty damned simple.
“What do I get out of supporting you?”
If you cannot answer that conclusively and materially then why support you? On the topics of things like rights and privileges. Well thats all fine and dandy but what do i get out of it as a man? I don’t see any mens rights types in the democratic party, i don’t see them promoting anything that will improve my life or status.
Oh I get a halfhearted pat on the back at best? Second class or even third class citizenship by default? Raving hatred at worst?
Enjoyed this article - I am reading it long after the election is over and given the necessary prognostication about that in the article I found it impressively honest, from a Democrat. Seems to me you (the author) could pretty clearly see what was coming, as could non-democrats, who were frankly only concerned that Dems would cheat, and felt (by the date of the OP) that the election of Trump was in the bag.
I am going to look at your profile in a minute to see if you have written anything as clear-eyed in the aftermath of your party’s catastrophe, and especially in light of Trumps amazing prep for his inauguration.
To me the most offensive part of the Kamala campaign was Tim Waltz wearing white face and doing a minstrel show about how lame and stupid white people are and how evil masculinity is. It was hard for non-self hating white men to vote for her after witnessing that shameful display. People on the right usually refer to democrat voting white men as “cuckolds” and to be honest, that’s not completely inaccurate.
I think there was a cultural moment, 10ish years ago maybe, when that kind of thing played well. And men taking a voluntary step back read as an expression of security in masculinity. "We can take this hit, guys," sort of thing. But that's worn real thin now, and Democrats are going to need to find *some* degree of macho energy if they want young men to seriously consider them as an option.
Very true. I don’t think there are any masculine alpha male types in the Democrat party under the age of 50. Biden’s era of strong Democratic men like the Kennedys are long gone. Who do they even have that’s young? They need to do some serious rebranding before they can fill out their bench. Right now the party just comes across as incredibly vaginal and cringe.
There's no real way to come across as tough or manly when you're constantly tip-toeing around the latticework of cultural tripwires the left has set to snare "problematics" who "talk over" people. It's not just Dems, it's true throughout lefty media and entertainment as well. Where are the Hunter S. Thompsons shitting on Nixon with reckless abandon? Where are the George Carlins? You just can't be that if you're looking over your shoulder all the time, and if you're *not* looking over your shoulder all the time, you're going to get kicked out of the club.
I’m a woman writing about how feminism has ruined social relations between men and women and between women. I try my best to encourage women in my writing to think critically about their beliefs. You are correct, it’s my cohort of millennial women plus gen z pushing misandry while calling themselves victims. It’s gross, and I think only women can truly effectively push back. Women are socially conformist creatures. We’re not going to wholesale abandon wokeism because our social company depends on our recitation of the woke catechism. And the way this ideology is embedded in our social relationships will make it near impossible to dislodge from our psyches, which means Democrats will continue to lose elections. Women won’t let it go, because it’s tied up in our social status system inextricably.
That's an interesting take that I hadn't thought of. I think it's related to the problem of feminism lacking a clear, consistent purpose. It's done a lot of shape shifting over the years. Hardly anyone is against 1st wave feminism. 2nd wave too is pretty non-controversial these days. But by the 3rd wave, shit was starting to get weird. Of course, by then, the identity had hardened. To NOT be a feminist was a betrayal, so left-leaning women have clung to the label, and its attendant priorities, despite it not really reflecting much of value anymore.
I told a friend a few years ago I could no longer call myself a Feminist, which shocked her, as I had been a woke feminist since the 90s. In the last 6 years, I listened to men I knew talk about women telling them to shut up and sit down, because their voice and ideas did not matter. I listened to my kids say their worst teachers were super liberal ideologues. The happiest people I met were Republicans. I have been told I was unimportant, because I was obv. a wealthy Karen (I grew up very poor w a father in prison). I met Black, Latino, and immigrant people who hated the Democratic party, because they were more religious, socially conservative, and entrepreneurially minded than most lib white Americans I know. I see the stats about young American men failing. I watched the results of Democratic policy induce the problems we face today with no accountability. They will not listen: that is the number one problem! The Dems and Fems know better than everyone else. This article is great, but do you really think the Democratic party can actually reform? I don't.
Sheesh, I don't know. I hold out hope, but I'm about as optimistic as you are. What seriously pisses me off about all this was that none of it - NONE - led to any significant policy victories. This entire detour into rancid identity obsession was a sacrifice in the name of...nothing.
Totally agree with your take on modern feminism driving men away from the left by pathologizing them. In my mind it’s very closely related to the inability of progressives to ever take a W insofar as feminist ideology refuses to admit how much better things have gotten for women, and as such has to keep coming up with more and more esoteric arguments about the oppression of women (e.g. toxic masculinity) now that most of the real battles around equal access to education, financial services, pay equity, etc. have largely been won. Why would white men especially sign up for a party that has done its best to reify an explicit identity based hierarchy of virtue that places them at the bottom? I remain a Dem because I’m basically Rawlsian at heart and I prefer their economic policy positions, but I’m not sure 20 year old me would have stuck it out.
Dems could really benefit from carefully examining this refusal to take Ws. It's so unbelievably counterproductive. I mean, I sort of get it. This generation of lefties grew up idolizing civil rights crusaders from eras past. Those fights are mostly won, which is a bummer for them because it means they can't be the heroes they worship, so they're just making things up to rail against. I'm a Rawlsian too, which is incredibly frustrating, because economic justice actually IS a fight worth having. For some reason, this is less fun for today's mostly-online libs though, so they're opting to just alienate everyone instead.
I mentioned this above but if your job is to be a feminist then if you say mission accomplished then you’re out of a job.
Its an issue of all ideologies. If you admit victory and your job is being a feminist, then congrats you’re out of a job. Thus your job depends on constantly finding new fights.
Its why the anti-abortion wing of the republicans literally folded like an omlette the second roe got slam dunked into the trash. That bill getting repealed was like the meteor killing all the dinosaurs for that whole racket.
Why continue to exist if your whole purpose just got obliterated?
I am a lifetime liberal woman who totally agrees with your assessment. I used to be a feminist. I am revolted by the woke identity politics. Livingston a lefty in Houston, I could live a decade thinking that conservative talking about the phenomenon were being hyperbolic, not looking into the situation. In the last year it’s dawned on me with horror detached from a shared reality the cult‘s ideas are. Now I think of myself as a women‘ rights advocate.
The left is losing women too. The cognitive dissonance is deafening in people talking about women’s rights while redefining the biology out of the term woman. I still hold center left ideals, but will be looking for other options until they repudiate the woke cult agenda.
Once lefties are ready to talk about it - which they still mostly aren't - they are going to need to reckon with the extent to which bowing to the language constraints of the "inclusivity" police was wildly alienating to all but the most extreme fringes.
Just now seeing this column. I expressly did not vote Democrat in the election because of the very palatable disdain for men, esp white and hetero (in other words, ME).
Look, I worked too hard these last 42 years, raised too good a family, was too much an overall contributor to the good of society than a detractor from it, to put up with being told I'm toxic and a problem for more than one nanosecond. So, no, those guys and gals did not get my vote.
But neither did Trump. He's not who I want for president, either, for many various OTHER reasons.
Both parties have a lot of work to do to stop being stupid and dysfunctional. I'm not holding my breath for anything to change, however, because both parties are corrupt institutions with a death grip on their power. Need proof? How about the fact that the candidates each party puts forth for us to choose from are worse and worse with every election. It's pathetic, and I refuse to support it. It must change.
Same, man. First election of my adult life in which I didn't vote. What really activated me against this batshit strain of contemporary feminism was having a son. Fair enough, come at me if it makes you feel good. I'll take it. But I'm not going to sit still for a bunch of assholes trying to make my four-year-old kid's life harder - harder to get into college, to get a job, to get promoted - all because of shit that people did before his grandfather was born. Nope. There's where I get off the train.
Let me put up an idea for you as an economic writer: If all government is discredited, then the only thing left standing is corporations. Wonderful representation and equality under the law, right?
Now what donors would pay to have 1) the most terrible candidates 2) the most losing campaigns? A: All of them, in that case.
Step 1: Say "Government is terrible!"
Step 2: Make government terrible.
Step 3: Say "I was right!"
Step 4: Hand over the duties of government to for-profit companies.
Step 5: Quit government and go work for the companies.
David, you fucking called everything like an oracle. I’ve been writing about similar subjects, but captured everything here perfectly. Enjoy your victory lap
Haha, thanks! Gotta enjoy 'em when I can.
"I don’t think there’s anything ageist in pointing out that political leaders..."
I'm a politically homeless former Dem, and I have to say that this qualifying sentiment here is one of the main things that Dems STILL don't seem to really get about why they lost. People in general are sick of having to defend, qualify, and otherwise censor themselves lest they incur the wrath of the morality police. The political correctness in the party is so deeply ingrained that qualification, hedging, etc. like the above quote come as naturally and unconsciously as breathing.
They don't realize that most people don't want to start conversations with "As a white straight male..." or "In my experience..." They rightly see it as a signal that the speaker adhering to the new speech orthodoxy being imposed on us by a small subset of the population. It was endured or ignored for a long time, but in the age of the internet and social media, and in the wake of 2020, it has become pernicious and now has the teeth to punish the average Joe, and can no longer be endured.
Get back to trying to get good jobs for blue collar and middle class people. Drop the morality play. Then you'll get the lost demographics back.
Oh, I 100% agree with you. Partly, it's a tick. Learned behavior. Woke sympathizers don't get how much of a brain worm it all is, having to constantly check yourself. Not to keep from saying something offensive, but to keep from saying something that a bad actor might *twist* into something offensive. It's exhausting. Partly though, I hedge like that because I know there's a chunk of my readership that will get stuck on it if I don't. Easier to add a clause acknowledging the BS than to have to go 10 rounds on a point that isn't even germane to the thesis.
Sorry to hear about your flood experiences. We're down here in Nonthaburi and mainly high and dry. The YouTube videos from the north have been devastating to watch so can't imagine how horrible it must be to be in it.
I have a number of quibbles about "feminism" as it is manifest in the Democratic Party.
I remember well how Hillary poleaxed any and all women who came forward to accuse ol' "Cigar-in-Pussy" Bill and managed to convince the Dem base that it was all "a vast rightwing conspiracy". There is nothing "feminist" about that.
And the Hillary stans at the time of "I'm With Her" were equally non-feminist "feminists". No branch or wing of feminism since the 70s has advocated defending men who assault women or use power imbalances to manipulate "consent" in order to gain power for yourself.
"Feminism" as it evolved once it was turned into nothing more than the major front in the Democrat culture war strategy is little more than partisan political rhetoric.
As to your point re: manhating evolving over time, I have to say there have always been feminists whose primary emotion has been hatred/anger toward men. I was on campus in the 80s when the "all hetero sex is rape" school was aligning itself with Christian fundamentalists to demonize porn and heavy metal. Anything to get those bastards was part of this strange alliance.
I remember forcing myself to read Mary Daly's "Gyn/Ecology: The Metaethics of Radical Feminism" around then and slowly becoming nauseous. Fortunately for me, my mother gifted me with an unconditional self-esteem that protected me from the kind of self-loathing that could easily infect a more sensitive man reading that book.
Overall your piece here is interesting and on-point about the failings of the Dems in the US. The same goes for the Liberals and NDP in my native Canada, of course.
Glad you guys stayed dry down south! We're getting put back together now, but it's rough, and a lot of our neighbors haven't been able to move back into their homes.
I was too young to be tuned in to 80s era feminism, but I imagine the movement has always had elements that were primarily animated by hatred of men. I also imagine that many of those women come by their hatred honestly - a lot of men are indeed shit! What's odd and unfortunate to me is that the primary target of feminist ire these days seems to be very young men. In other words, those least responsible for the conditions and behaviors they don't like, and the ones least well off, are the ones getting the most scorn heaped on them.
good article - as a female Trump voter the sheer lack of self-reflection from the left on how they treat men is CRAZY, so i admire you being one of the few willing to speak about it.
another thing that someone on Twitter pointed out is that thanks to dem's misandry addiction men have become some kind of mystical, incomprehensible group requiring analysis and complex translation to understand. as a kid, i'd always hear "men are simple creatures" - not anymore, i guess? "just don't treat me like shit" is extremely difficult to understand... (except to OP, of course)
Excellent piece, incredibly quotable! Well done!
Thanks!
My stock response. If you have seen it before I’m sorry, if not enjoy.
After the election the Democratic Party (my party) must rethink many of its policies as it ponders its future.
To be entrusted with power again Democrats must start listening to the concerns of the working class for a change. As a lifelong moderate Democrat I share their disdain for many of the insane positions advocated by my party. We are no longer the patriotic, sensible party of FDR and JFK.
Democrat politicians defy biology by believing that men can actually become women and belong in women’s sports, rest rooms, locker rooms and prisons and that children should be mutilated in pursuit of the impossible.
They believe borders should be open to millions of illegals which undermines workers’ wages and the affordability of housing when we can’t house our own citizens.
They discriminate against whites, Asians and men in a futile effort to counter past discrimination against others and undermine our economy by abandoning merit selection of students and employees.
Democratic mayors allow homelessness to destroy our beautiful cities because they won't say no to destructive behavior. No, you can’t camp in our city. No, you can’t shit in our streets. No, you can’t shoot up and leave your used needles everywhere. Many of our prosecutors will not take action against shoplifting unless a $1000 of goods are stolen leading to gangs destroying retail stores. They release criminals without bail to commit more crimes.
The average voter knows this is happening and outright reject our party. Enough.
Feels like party functionaries closed themselves off to anyone who wasn’t a mostly online pseudo-activist. And since online spaces were so rigorously policed in terms of permissible speech, they weren’t getting the full flavor of public opinion. The question now is whether they’re going to decide they care about winning enough to change course, or whether they’ll stick to their guns to avoid losing face and personal prestige.
This one aged well indeed. Spot on.
Look the calculus for men is pretty damned simple.
“What do I get out of supporting you?”
If you cannot answer that conclusively and materially then why support you? On the topics of things like rights and privileges. Well thats all fine and dandy but what do i get out of it as a man? I don’t see any mens rights types in the democratic party, i don’t see them promoting anything that will improve my life or status.
Oh I get a halfhearted pat on the back at best? Second class or even third class citizenship by default? Raving hatred at worst?
Yeah no thanks.
Enjoyed this article - I am reading it long after the election is over and given the necessary prognostication about that in the article I found it impressively honest, from a Democrat. Seems to me you (the author) could pretty clearly see what was coming, as could non-democrats, who were frankly only concerned that Dems would cheat, and felt (by the date of the OP) that the election of Trump was in the bag.
I am going to look at your profile in a minute to see if you have written anything as clear-eyed in the aftermath of your party’s catastrophe, and especially in light of Trumps amazing prep for his inauguration.
To me the most offensive part of the Kamala campaign was Tim Waltz wearing white face and doing a minstrel show about how lame and stupid white people are and how evil masculinity is. It was hard for non-self hating white men to vote for her after witnessing that shameful display. People on the right usually refer to democrat voting white men as “cuckolds” and to be honest, that’s not completely inaccurate.
I think there was a cultural moment, 10ish years ago maybe, when that kind of thing played well. And men taking a voluntary step back read as an expression of security in masculinity. "We can take this hit, guys," sort of thing. But that's worn real thin now, and Democrats are going to need to find *some* degree of macho energy if they want young men to seriously consider them as an option.
Very true. I don’t think there are any masculine alpha male types in the Democrat party under the age of 50. Biden’s era of strong Democratic men like the Kennedys are long gone. Who do they even have that’s young? They need to do some serious rebranding before they can fill out their bench. Right now the party just comes across as incredibly vaginal and cringe.
There's no real way to come across as tough or manly when you're constantly tip-toeing around the latticework of cultural tripwires the left has set to snare "problematics" who "talk over" people. It's not just Dems, it's true throughout lefty media and entertainment as well. Where are the Hunter S. Thompsons shitting on Nixon with reckless abandon? Where are the George Carlins? You just can't be that if you're looking over your shoulder all the time, and if you're *not* looking over your shoulder all the time, you're going to get kicked out of the club.
I suppose they had mr newsome but his career has burnt down harder than Los Angles