No, because the story itself isn’t the story, the dumb response is. I don’t care how the Times got their scoop. A political candidate who can’t handle unfavorable media coverage isn’t likely to be a good political candidate.
This is to much, this little trust fund baby started out with advantages and just wanted to double them. Identify politics the go to politics for brain dead Democrats. We can only hope that there are enough reasonable voters in NYC to see through his BS. It’s a big stretch of a hope because just look at a great city like Orlando sending that goof ball Maxwell Frost to the US House.
What advantage did he gain when he didn't go to the school that this application was for? “Identify politics” lol. Of the people running who do you think would be a better option for mayor?
Even if that was true, which it isn't, Eric Adam and Andrew Cuomo have lied much more and in much more consequential ways. What makes him any worse than the other options? What policies are you actually in favor of? Or do you only care about idpol issues from more than a decade ago?
I highly doubt that Cuomo, mediocre man that he is, ever self-identified as another race. I care that Mohron, and the morons who vote for him, actually believe the bullshit that comes out of their mouths and keyboards. He is a know-nothing, parented by know-nothings, supported by know-nothings.
The ideologies to which he subscribes - stick it to the rich, and blame the Jews for everything - has failed in every civilization that attempts to use it for political gain. Why he and his Jim Jonesesque cult followers believe this time will be different is a testament to the idea of the death of the American educational system.
It's funny cause Cuomo has literally said on camera "I am black" but it was a silly lib thing not a real claim so I won't actually pretend like that is a thing, just funny. Cuomos lies were more around getting a bunch of old people killed during a pandemic which I would say is a bit more important than a college app. I love how none of you can exist in reality. Zionism is not the same thing as Judaism. No actually criticism of policy, just vague talking points about how is "communist" or "antisemitic" with no edivence.
Fauci informed Cuomo. Mohron’s lies will get people killed too. Social Workers stepping in for subway cops? Globalize the intifada just “not the way I would say it.” He’s so full of shit his eyes are brown.
Jack, I have little knowledge of the various candidates outside of the top two or three. But I would go with the guy that leads the group that patrols the subway, or the current mayor, as he seems not to take the job that serious and the powers at be seem to be out to get him. Really I am not a good person to ask as Bucks County is as close to Gotham as I have ever been and that was for a car show…
So the lunatic that has 20 cats in a studio apartment and beats up minorities or the most corrupt man in NYC political history who is controlled by Trump, gotcha. You really don't know anything about NYC it seems so this may not be the convo for you lol. Zohran is by far the best candidate on all fronts and an application to a school he didn't attend when he was 17 doesn't change that.
Jack, I guess one of the candidates does not have a rodent problem, which may add to his appeal judging from the size of the rats and the other I don’t know how you can say he is controlled by the President as the Mayor had to go on bended knee to get some minor charges dismissed that has been orchestrated by Democrats to get him. But then again the Mayor may own the President a favor.
God you make a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes, it's honestly hard to read. If you are talking about deblasio that's hilarious cause it has nothing to do with the current race. Trump made the DOJ drop Eric Adams corruption investigation and in return Adams has been working on Trumps behalf since.
You make it sound like the Bernie bros were thwarted by the Maga crew. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was the dems who ate their own, and the same party tried to put kamala in power knowing full well she couldn't even get past Iowa in 2020.
Attempting to offer a good-faith fact check: the Nicole Hannah-jones quote is years old and unrelated to Mamdani. I remember because it was such a dumb statement at the time. (I mean, it’s still dumb, but this was back in 2020/2021.) If you’re skeptical of my claim, just ask yourself, what are the chances that she’s still on Twitter, and didn’t decamp for Bluesky?
Anyway, the NHJ tweet really isn’t essential to the essay, or to the point you’re trying to make, so I’d humbly suggest that you verify that I’m right, and if so that you correct this one mistake.
Ah crap. Thank you for pointing this out! The piece has been edited, the misleading passage has been removed, and a correction now appears at the top. I agree, it’s still a weird thing to have said, but she deleted the original post and clarified it. She was weighing in on Joe Biden’s “you ain’t black” comment - as in, black conservatives may be “racially black” but they aren’t “politically black,” which is an awkward and arguably offensive framing, but one that’s at least coherent enough for me to understand it. Thanks again for spotting the error!
This bugs you so much partially because it’s a huge issue for you personally. He surely checked the boxes that would help his admission. He may also have explained it to himself in the terms you’re calling bullshit, sheepishly glad that he had a kinda sorta wholesome reason to check them.
But also, he can’t just say it. He has to finesse this one. I’m not a huge Zohran fan—I hope he does well but I’d have preferred a more technocratic NyC mayor likely to just run things competently—but I can’t get mad a politicians for doing politician things.
Like, I can’t be mad at MAGA politicians for not spelling out the racism in their kidnappings. They can’t just say it—they’d lose 5-10% of their support if they said “well, we want a whiter America.” It’s politics, and it’s the opposition’s job to point out the obvious darker motivations.
As for difficulties of discussing affirmative action—yes, it’s hard to talk about because white people feel like it’s unfair to them, and the framing in which it is “unfair to whites” is easier to paint than the framing in which the lack of affirmative action is problematic—and in fact that framing doesn’t necessarily invoke easy-to-grasp fairness notions, but instead depends on visions of what some people want society to look like in the future (ie we just want to see people of different ethnicities succeeding at all levels in all professions).
It’s just another situation where the left position is less simple to explain. I support some kind of AA because I think it’s legitimate for universities to want a diverse student body. Some people think that’s terribly wrong, and that it would be fine for Harvard to have zero black or Latino students, possibly even close to zero Americans, if that’s what the test scores dictate. That would be “fair” by a simplistic conception of fairness, but a terrible mismatch to the society I want to live in.
“Fairness” especially at the individual level, is just a really easy heuristic to apply to politics, and it benefits conservatives almost every time. It’s very sports-derivative. For example, it’s “unfair” to tax a rich person to help a poor person. The rich person won the game, and you’re taking points off their scoreboard and awarding them to the losing player. Totally unfair.
Liberals can sort of use fairness at the group/systematic level (but even moderate liberals will denounce “identity politics”), but it’s a laborious story to tell. Liberals are almost always using less simplistic concepts than fairness in their thinking about politics.
How can you support AA as a seemingly intelligent white man in the current year 2025? You’re in favor of a policy that objectively discriminates against white people (you, your kids, your family i assume) based on their race. How can you advocate for a policy that unfairly reduces opportunities for your own loved ones? The only way to view your stance is that you are actively conspiring against your own family and future descendants by promoting a system that will penalize them for being born white, even if they are the smartest, most capable applicant for any given position, and will artificially promote every other group that isn’t you/your family on that racial basis alone. Seriously why would you support that?? I’m genuinely confused….unless you are like a boomer or gay or something? in which case I guess that could make a little more sense….
As a non-white person, it's almost admirable the level that white people have no in group bias, white liberals in particular, have been socialized to prefer other groops over their own. It's an astounding project of social engineering.
I love his win for the same reasons you do. I’m not sold on all his ideas, but the fact NYC chose someone with a strong populist agenda over (ugh) Cuomo is good.
And yeah, checking that box was gaming the system and everyone knows it. It kind of sucks that a)we all know most people check any identity box they can plausibly check if they think it gives them an advantage, which is how we got noted Native American Elizabeth Warren but b)everyone pretends to be outraged when it comes out. Meanwhile half the contractors in DC are officially female- or minority-owned because it gives them access to set-asides.
I'll also explain to you something about the Elizabeth Warren situation. I was raised by my parents be told I was part native American. Choctaw and Cherokee. Great grandparents in both sides. Well, I did 23 and me DNA test. Not an ounce of native blood. 97% British. Ran into someone, told them my story. They had the exact same story.
Yeah, I maybe didn’t express that very well. I agree that Warren very likely believed she had Native heritage. But at the same time, she wouldn’t have listed it in her bios if she didn’t think it benefited her in some way. It’s complicated.
I voted for Warren in the 2020 primaries and still wish I lived in a world where she had a better shot, so this isn’t me just hating on her.
Is it any different than stating your sexual preference in grant applications when it's asked for? Knowing you have a better chance getting said grant if you state anything but straight white male?
This seems to be the opinion of most of my friends too. None of us really like him and we think most of his policies suck… but there’s something cathartic about watching him smack down Cuomo and the Dem establishment.
I don’t think his policies suck — though I don’t live in NYC so I’m not fully aware of all of them. I’m just not convinced he has a workable plan to put them in place. But I guess the same could be said for any fresh politician.
But yeah, trying to shove Cuomo down voters’ throats because what? His dad was a decent governor 40 years ago? Was just insulting.
Can’t you care that he’s an inveterate liar? I care that he doesn’t have morals now, that he didn’t before, and that his parents are vile scumbags who made him this way. That anyone would vote for this charlatan shows how corrupt our schools are and how vapid the under-30 crowd really is.
Have you ever fudged the truth? If this is the worst oppo on him, then hes done better than 99% of people.
How about you crash out over the pay for access crypto schemd the president has already made $10’s of millions off of through Trump coin, or Eric Adams taking private jet flights with Turkish officials
Americans probably don't understand just what a lie it was. Every Indian born in Uganda, and every Ugandan African, would fall over laughing at the idea that someone of Indian ethnicity would identify as "African" or "Black". The Indians are there because we British imported them to form an acceptable clerical class as we didn't want the Africans getting ideas. They were ethnically cleansed by a dictator who knew no one saw them as true Ugandans, let alone as African. And see if there's any inter-racial families in African countries involving an Indian - not likely, the Indians are dead against it. Your guy and his parents would now how insane his claim was. But he played your "identity Olympics".
“the people excusing Zohran’s box ticking would self-immolate in vengeful protest if Elon Musk started referring to himself as “African-American.”
But Musk is legitimately African-American; he was born in South Africa so he is 100% thus. Now that makes progs head’s explode because he’s “not the right color” but that simply exposes them for what they are: race-obsessed bigots.
‘I dont care about the mistake on his application form’ … but Im not going to let that stop me from writing at length about the minutia of arbitrary racial categories on college forms.
I think for this line of thinking to make sense, you would have to 1) account for the people in admissions knowing who he was - the child of a tenured professor - which would make it pretty difficult to "game" admissions (to say nothing of the fact being the child of a tenured professor is a much more practical way to gain admission to most universities), and 2) him specifying 'Ugandan' as a clarification.
It's also a compound error, as he and his supporters are demonstrating exactly how dumb they think we are, and the Dems already struggled with coming off as condescending.
"The system was there to be gamed and I gamed it. Sorry not sorry." -This is what Trump would have said, lol (except Trump would go further to add that only an idiot wouldn't game it). Isn't it about time for liberal politicians to take a page out of Trump's book on response to scandal, if nothing else? He appears to be great at it.
Especially for tiny shit like this, I feel like voters would rather hear the honest truth than have obvious smoke blown up their ass. I for sure really would, I'm so so tired of being bullshitted. Obvious flowery lies are not the note.
We all know the steaming pile of shit that is the Right. My question for you is, are you willing to do what it takes to beat them? If so, you'd better start listening to stuff like this post.
Talking nonstop shit about the left and never criticizing the right, is how you help the right. Pretty simple. You want perfect candidates, that don't exist. The right doesn't give a shit. They simply want a majority, so they can force their shit on everyone else. Wake the fuck up.
Enjoy your fascist future in America. I watched the Bernie Bros help get Trump elected when they spread all the anti Hillary propaganda fed them by the GOP. And you're doing it again 👍
He had no option because to admit colleges are biased predatory lenders running an expensive cotillion for the rulling class is to question the moral foundation of the entire managerial left.
So we get the same "That’s Not Happening and It’s Good That It Is" schtick.
No touching on the obvious picking-and-choosing angle of the NYT’s coverage of hacked information?
No, because the story itself isn’t the story, the dumb response is. I don’t care how the Times got their scoop. A political candidate who can’t handle unfavorable media coverage isn’t likely to be a good political candidate.
He commented on the story. It seems like he’s fine with it.
His being fine with it and his having dealt with it are two different things
But he back third isn't about his reaction, its about people having issue with the coverage on his behalf and your own issues with Affirmative Action
This is to much, this little trust fund baby started out with advantages and just wanted to double them. Identify politics the go to politics for brain dead Democrats. We can only hope that there are enough reasonable voters in NYC to see through his BS. It’s a big stretch of a hope because just look at a great city like Orlando sending that goof ball Maxwell Frost to the US House.
What advantage did he gain when he didn't go to the school that this application was for? “Identify politics” lol. Of the people running who do you think would be a better option for mayor?
He’s a dishonest fuckwit. That’s all that needs to be gleaned by this.
Even if that was true, which it isn't, Eric Adam and Andrew Cuomo have lied much more and in much more consequential ways. What makes him any worse than the other options? What policies are you actually in favor of? Or do you only care about idpol issues from more than a decade ago?
I highly doubt that Cuomo, mediocre man that he is, ever self-identified as another race. I care that Mohron, and the morons who vote for him, actually believe the bullshit that comes out of their mouths and keyboards. He is a know-nothing, parented by know-nothings, supported by know-nothings.
The ideologies to which he subscribes - stick it to the rich, and blame the Jews for everything - has failed in every civilization that attempts to use it for political gain. Why he and his Jim Jonesesque cult followers believe this time will be different is a testament to the idea of the death of the American educational system.
It's funny cause Cuomo has literally said on camera "I am black" but it was a silly lib thing not a real claim so I won't actually pretend like that is a thing, just funny. Cuomos lies were more around getting a bunch of old people killed during a pandemic which I would say is a bit more important than a college app. I love how none of you can exist in reality. Zionism is not the same thing as Judaism. No actually criticism of policy, just vague talking points about how is "communist" or "antisemitic" with no edivence.
Fauci informed Cuomo. Mohron’s lies will get people killed too. Social Workers stepping in for subway cops? Globalize the intifada just “not the way I would say it.” He’s so full of shit his eyes are brown.
Jack, I have little knowledge of the various candidates outside of the top two or three. But I would go with the guy that leads the group that patrols the subway, or the current mayor, as he seems not to take the job that serious and the powers at be seem to be out to get him. Really I am not a good person to ask as Bucks County is as close to Gotham as I have ever been and that was for a car show…
So the lunatic that has 20 cats in a studio apartment and beats up minorities or the most corrupt man in NYC political history who is controlled by Trump, gotcha. You really don't know anything about NYC it seems so this may not be the convo for you lol. Zohran is by far the best candidate on all fronts and an application to a school he didn't attend when he was 17 doesn't change that.
Jack, I guess one of the candidates does not have a rodent problem, which may add to his appeal judging from the size of the rats and the other I don’t know how you can say he is controlled by the President as the Mayor had to go on bended knee to get some minor charges dismissed that has been orchestrated by Democrats to get him. But then again the Mayor may own the President a favor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DTtpWgrhS78
God you make a lot of spelling and grammar mistakes, it's honestly hard to read. If you are talking about deblasio that's hilarious cause it has nothing to do with the current race. Trump made the DOJ drop Eric Adams corruption investigation and in return Adams has been working on Trumps behalf since.
Sorry I was typing on my phone in bright sunlight, I went back and edited and no I did not mean deblasio.
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You make it sound like the Bernie bros were thwarted by the Maga crew. Nothing could be further from the truth. It was the dems who ate their own, and the same party tried to put kamala in power knowing full well she couldn't even get past Iowa in 2020.
Physician, heal thyself.
Attempting to offer a good-faith fact check: the Nicole Hannah-jones quote is years old and unrelated to Mamdani. I remember because it was such a dumb statement at the time. (I mean, it’s still dumb, but this was back in 2020/2021.) If you’re skeptical of my claim, just ask yourself, what are the chances that she’s still on Twitter, and didn’t decamp for Bluesky?
Anyway, the NHJ tweet really isn’t essential to the essay, or to the point you’re trying to make, so I’d humbly suggest that you verify that I’m right, and if so that you correct this one mistake.
Ah crap. Thank you for pointing this out! The piece has been edited, the misleading passage has been removed, and a correction now appears at the top. I agree, it’s still a weird thing to have said, but she deleted the original post and clarified it. She was weighing in on Joe Biden’s “you ain’t black” comment - as in, black conservatives may be “racially black” but they aren’t “politically black,” which is an awkward and arguably offensive framing, but one that’s at least coherent enough for me to understand it. Thanks again for spotting the error!
This bugs you so much partially because it’s a huge issue for you personally. He surely checked the boxes that would help his admission. He may also have explained it to himself in the terms you’re calling bullshit, sheepishly glad that he had a kinda sorta wholesome reason to check them.
But also, he can’t just say it. He has to finesse this one. I’m not a huge Zohran fan—I hope he does well but I’d have preferred a more technocratic NyC mayor likely to just run things competently—but I can’t get mad a politicians for doing politician things.
Like, I can’t be mad at MAGA politicians for not spelling out the racism in their kidnappings. They can’t just say it—they’d lose 5-10% of their support if they said “well, we want a whiter America.” It’s politics, and it’s the opposition’s job to point out the obvious darker motivations.
As for difficulties of discussing affirmative action—yes, it’s hard to talk about because white people feel like it’s unfair to them, and the framing in which it is “unfair to whites” is easier to paint than the framing in which the lack of affirmative action is problematic—and in fact that framing doesn’t necessarily invoke easy-to-grasp fairness notions, but instead depends on visions of what some people want society to look like in the future (ie we just want to see people of different ethnicities succeeding at all levels in all professions).
It’s just another situation where the left position is less simple to explain. I support some kind of AA because I think it’s legitimate for universities to want a diverse student body. Some people think that’s terribly wrong, and that it would be fine for Harvard to have zero black or Latino students, possibly even close to zero Americans, if that’s what the test scores dictate. That would be “fair” by a simplistic conception of fairness, but a terrible mismatch to the society I want to live in.
“Fairness” especially at the individual level, is just a really easy heuristic to apply to politics, and it benefits conservatives almost every time. It’s very sports-derivative. For example, it’s “unfair” to tax a rich person to help a poor person. The rich person won the game, and you’re taking points off their scoreboard and awarding them to the losing player. Totally unfair.
Liberals can sort of use fairness at the group/systematic level (but even moderate liberals will denounce “identity politics”), but it’s a laborious story to tell. Liberals are almost always using less simplistic concepts than fairness in their thinking about politics.
How can you support AA as a seemingly intelligent white man in the current year 2025? You’re in favor of a policy that objectively discriminates against white people (you, your kids, your family i assume) based on their race. How can you advocate for a policy that unfairly reduces opportunities for your own loved ones? The only way to view your stance is that you are actively conspiring against your own family and future descendants by promoting a system that will penalize them for being born white, even if they are the smartest, most capable applicant for any given position, and will artificially promote every other group that isn’t you/your family on that racial basis alone. Seriously why would you support that?? I’m genuinely confused….unless you are like a boomer or gay or something? in which case I guess that could make a little more sense….
As a non-white person, it's almost admirable the level that white people have no in group bias, white liberals in particular, have been socialized to prefer other groops over their own. It's an astounding project of social engineering.
It’s definitely not admirable but I agree it is astounding
I love his win for the same reasons you do. I’m not sold on all his ideas, but the fact NYC chose someone with a strong populist agenda over (ugh) Cuomo is good.
And yeah, checking that box was gaming the system and everyone knows it. It kind of sucks that a)we all know most people check any identity box they can plausibly check if they think it gives them an advantage, which is how we got noted Native American Elizabeth Warren but b)everyone pretends to be outraged when it comes out. Meanwhile half the contractors in DC are officially female- or minority-owned because it gives them access to set-asides.
I'll also explain to you something about the Elizabeth Warren situation. I was raised by my parents be told I was part native American. Choctaw and Cherokee. Great grandparents in both sides. Well, I did 23 and me DNA test. Not an ounce of native blood. 97% British. Ran into someone, told them my story. They had the exact same story.
Yeah, I maybe didn’t express that very well. I agree that Warren very likely believed she had Native heritage. But at the same time, she wouldn’t have listed it in her bios if she didn’t think it benefited her in some way. It’s complicated.
I voted for Warren in the 2020 primaries and still wish I lived in a world where she had a better shot, so this isn’t me just hating on her.
Is it any different than stating your sexual preference in grant applications when it's asked for? Knowing you have a better chance getting said grant if you state anything but straight white male?
Why wouldn't she list it?
Oh it’s eminently frustrating how, for some political persuasions, it is forbidden to acknowledge the open secret.
This seems to be the opinion of most of my friends too. None of us really like him and we think most of his policies suck… but there’s something cathartic about watching him smack down Cuomo and the Dem establishment.
I don’t think his policies suck — though I don’t live in NYC so I’m not fully aware of all of them. I’m just not convinced he has a workable plan to put them in place. But I guess the same could be said for any fresh politician.
But yeah, trying to shove Cuomo down voters’ throats because what? His dad was a decent governor 40 years ago? Was just insulting.
there is truth in that, its all part of the game so people shrug their shoulders.
Can’t you care that he’s an inveterate liar? I care that he doesn’t have morals now, that he didn’t before, and that his parents are vile scumbags who made him this way. That anyone would vote for this charlatan shows how corrupt our schools are and how vapid the under-30 crowd really is.
Have you ever fudged the truth? If this is the worst oppo on him, then hes done better than 99% of people.
How about you crash out over the pay for access crypto schemd the president has already made $10’s of millions off of through Trump coin, or Eric Adams taking private jet flights with Turkish officials
No. I have never claimed to be a different race for admission to college. Anyone willing to overlook this moral failure is evil incarnate.
Americans probably don't understand just what a lie it was. Every Indian born in Uganda, and every Ugandan African, would fall over laughing at the idea that someone of Indian ethnicity would identify as "African" or "Black". The Indians are there because we British imported them to form an acceptable clerical class as we didn't want the Africans getting ideas. They were ethnically cleansed by a dictator who knew no one saw them as true Ugandans, let alone as African. And see if there's any inter-racial families in African countries involving an Indian - not likely, the Indians are dead against it. Your guy and his parents would now how insane his claim was. But he played your "identity Olympics".
“the people excusing Zohran’s box ticking would self-immolate in vengeful protest if Elon Musk started referring to himself as “African-American.”
But Musk is legitimately African-American; he was born in South Africa so he is 100% thus. Now that makes progs head’s explode because he’s “not the right color” but that simply exposes them for what they are: race-obsessed bigots.
What an absolute nothing burger
‘I dont care about the mistake on his application form’ … but Im not going to let that stop me from writing at length about the minutia of arbitrary racial categories on college forms.
Crazy to be clutching at straws this small
I think for this line of thinking to make sense, you would have to 1) account for the people in admissions knowing who he was - the child of a tenured professor - which would make it pretty difficult to "game" admissions (to say nothing of the fact being the child of a tenured professor is a much more practical way to gain admission to most universities), and 2) him specifying 'Ugandan' as a clarification.
It's also a compound error, as he and his supporters are demonstrating exactly how dumb they think we are, and the Dems already struggled with coming off as condescending.
"The system was there to be gamed and I gamed it. Sorry not sorry." -This is what Trump would have said, lol (except Trump would go further to add that only an idiot wouldn't game it). Isn't it about time for liberal politicians to take a page out of Trump's book on response to scandal, if nothing else? He appears to be great at it.
Especially for tiny shit like this, I feel like voters would rather hear the honest truth than have obvious smoke blown up their ass. I for sure really would, I'm so so tired of being bullshitted. Obvious flowery lies are not the note.
More whining about the left nothing burgers. While staying mum about the steaming pile if shit the right is engaged in.
We all know the steaming pile of shit that is the Right. My question for you is, are you willing to do what it takes to beat them? If so, you'd better start listening to stuff like this post.
Talking nonstop shit about the left and never criticizing the right, is how you help the right. Pretty simple. You want perfect candidates, that don't exist. The right doesn't give a shit. They simply want a majority, so they can force their shit on everyone else. Wake the fuck up.
What helps the right is when the left does foolish things, not when I point it out
Enjoy your fascist future in America. I watched the Bernie Bros help get Trump elected when they spread all the anti Hillary propaganda fed them by the GOP. And you're doing it again 👍
Isn’t Joni Mitchell politically black?
He had no option because to admit colleges are biased predatory lenders running an expensive cotillion for the rulling class is to question the moral foundation of the entire managerial left.
So we get the same "That’s Not Happening and It’s Good That It Is" schtick.